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DE POYNINGS Richard
Birth: ABT 1355 Poynings, Sussex, England
Death: 25 May 1387 Villalpando, Zamora, leon, Spain
Burial: Poynings, Sussex, England
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BARONY OF POYNINGS (III) 1375
RICHARD (DE POYNINGS), LORD POYNINGS, brother and heir, born about 1355 (l),
was knighted, 16 July 1377, by the King before the banquet in Westminster Hall at the
Coronation of Richard II. He was going abroad in the company of John de Arundel in
the autumn of 1377, and in March 1379/80 was one of the English notables who
pledged themselves for the fulfilment of the treaty with Brittany. Commissioner of the
peace and of array in Sussex, 1381, 1382, 1384 and 1385. He was summoned to
Parliament from 7 January 1382/3 to 3 September 1385. In June 1385 he was
summoned against the Scots, and he accompanied John of Gaunt to Spain in 1386.
He married Isabel, daughter and (in 1392-93) hier of Robert (who took the name of
FITZPAYN), younger son of Sir Richard (DE GREY), LORD GREY (of Codnor), by
Joan, daughter of Sir Robert (FITZPAYN), LORD FITZPAYN, by Elizabeth, daughter of
Sir Guy de Bryan, of Walwyn's Castle, Pembroke, Torbrian, Devon, and Laugharne,
co. Carmarthen, and in her issue, coheir of her brother Sir Guy (de Bryan), Lord Bryan.
He died 25 May 1387, at Villalpando, province of Zamora, Spain, of an epidemic rife
among the English. Isabel died 11 April 1394. [Complete Peerage X:602-3, XIV:535,
(transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
NOTE: CP XIV:535 tries to correct the above information concerning the wife of
Robert FitzPayn, deleting all information about Elizabeth, daughter of Guy de Bryan,
and replacing it with "Isobel, daughter of Sir John de Clifford". Paul Reed, in a long
post to SGM, 20 Oct 1998, proves that the original wife (Elizabeth de Bryan) was
correct. I WOULD GO FURTHER; some editor for CP XIV must have been up too late
and half-asleep (as I find myself too often, when I make horrendous mistakes): Note
that it was the maternal GRANDFATHER of this Robert, Robert FitzPayn, b. c1254, d.
22 Aug 1315, who was married to Isabel, daughter of John de Clifford. In addition the
editor did not update the information on Robert FitzPayn (the grandson), leaving his
wife as Elizabeth de Bryan in the article on him (CP V:464) which mentions no other
wife for him. I don't feel that the correction volume (XIV), in many ways, meets the
same standards that the original CP met.
(l) He was still under age in Dec 1375; the IPM of his father and brother are
discrepant as to his age. It was not till 19 Sep 1380 that he had an order for livery of
his lands, having proved his age and done homage.
(f) His will, dated 10 June 1387, directs burial at Poynings.
Parents
DE POYNINGS Michael (ABT 1323 - 7 Mar 1369)
DE ROKESLEY Joan (ABT 1321 - 16 May 1369)
Siblings
DE POYNINGS Richard (ABT 1355 - 25 May 1387)
Marriage To FITZ PAYN Isabel (ABT 1364 - 11 Apr 1394)
m.
Notes
Parents
FITZ PAYN Robert (ABT 1321 - 21 May 1393)
DE BRIENNE Elizabeth (ABT 1338 - BEF 1393)
Children by FITZ PAYN Isabel ABT 1364 - 11 Apr 1394
POYNINGS Robert (3 Dec 1382 - 2 Oct 1446)
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