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Birth:          ABT 1093 England
Death:          AFT 1137 

Notes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybil_(wife_of_Pain_fitzJohn)
Sybil was an Anglo-Norman noblewoman in 12th century England.
Biography[edit]

Historians disagree about Sybil's parentage. The entry for her first husband in the 
Oxford Dictionary of National Biography entry states that Sybil was the niece of Hugh 
de Lacy.[1] The Complete Peerage states that Sybil was the daughter of Geoffrey 
Talbot and Talbot's wife Agnes, who was herself probably the daughter of Walter de 
Lacy.[2] The historian K. S. B. Keats-Rohan states Sybil was the daughter of Hugh de 
Lacy,[3] a view shared by fellow historians Judith Green and Paul Dalton.[4][5][a] 
Others such as Bruce Coplestone-Crow and David Crouch agree with the Oxford 
Dictionary of National Biography's designation of Sybil as Hugh's niece,[8] and 
daughter of Geoffrey Talbot and Agnes, the sister of Hugh de Lacy.[9][10]

Sybil married first Pain fitzJohn,[11] a marriage that took place around 1115.[1] 
Through Sybil, Pain acquired a number of holdings around Ludlow Castle,[12] as well 
as control of the castle itself.[13] Ludlow was an important strategic stronghold which 
controlled part of the Welsh Borders.[14] Sybil also brought her husband lands in 
Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, and Worcestershire.[7] Both King Henry I and King 
Stephen recognized Pain's right to his wife's lands. Sybil had inherited lands that 
originally had been held by her kinsman Gilbert de Lacy, the son of Roger de Lacy. 
Roger de Lacy had been banished from England in 1095 and his English estates 
confiscated; he had though retained his properties in Normandy. Roger's English 
possessions were given to his brother Hugh de Lacy, from whom Sybil had inherited 
them. On Roger's death Gilbert inherited the lands in Normandy, and pressed his claim 
to the family's former English estates. Coplestone-Crow notes that there was 
uncertainty hanging over the inheritance, and accounted for one reason why Sybil's 
husband worked to secure more lands around Ludlow.[12] Sybil was not the only 
recipient of Hugh de Lacy's lands; some went to Josce de Dinan and some to Miles of 
Gloucester.[6]

Pain died on 10 July 1137 and was buried in Gloucester Abbey.[1] Sybil retained 
control of Ludlow Castle until the middle of 1139, when she was forced to surrender it 
to King Stephen after a siege.[15] Stephen then married Sybil to Josce de Dinan,[16] 
probably because he felt that Josce trustworthy enough to control the castle.[15] 
Josce thus acquired control of Ludlow Castle in right of his wife, setting up the 
background to Gilbert Lacy's attempts to seize Ludlow from Dinan on which the 
medieval Welsh romance work Fouke le Fitz Waryn is based.[16] Josce, however, 
rebelled against Stephen and fortified Ludlow against the king.[17] Josce died in 
1166.[18]

Sybil had two daughters, Cecily and Agnes with Pain.[3] The two girls married five 
times in their lives;[1] Cecily's three marriages failed to produce any direct heirs.[19] 
Cecily was first married to Roger, the son of Miles of Gloucester.[1] This alliance had 
been arranged by Cecily's father and the marriage contract specified that Roger would 
inherit all of Pain's lands, but at Pain's death the marriage had still not been formally 
contracted. In December 1137 King Stephen confirmed the terms of the settlement.[8] 
Stephen also settled the bulk Pain's lands on Cecily, which led to disturbances and a 
minor war among disappointed claimants.[20] Agnes first married Warin de Munchensy 
and then Haldenald de Bidun. She died sometime after 1185, when she was noted as 
a widow.[2] Presumably Sybil is the mother of Josce's two daughters – Sibil, who 
married Hugh de Pulgenet and died in 1212, and Hawise who married Fulk FitzWarin, 
who died in 1197.[18] In 1199 Sibil and Hawise petitioned the king regarding the 
ownership of the town and castle of Ludlow but were turned down.[21]


Marriage To FITZ JOHN Payn (ABT 1086 - 10 Jul 1137)
    m.  

Notes

Parents
FITZ RICHARD John "One Eye" "Monoculus" (ABT 1050 - 1138)
____ Magdalen ()

Children by FITZ JOHN Payn ABT 1086 - 10 Jul 1137
FITZ JOHN Agnes (1125 - BEF Sep 1191)
FITZ JOHN Payn (ABT 1135 - )

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