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FITZ JOHN Agnes
Birth: ABT 1103 Knaresborough Castle, Yorkshire, England
Death: AFT 1185
Notes
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&id=I29019
As pointed out by Rosie Bevan, CP states that Agnes, daughter of John, and sister of
Payn and Eustace FitzJohn, m. Roger de Valognes and was a widow in 1185. CP
suggests she was aged 50 or 60 and more in 1185 (Rosie would have her much older,
which I think is correct).
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About the identity of Cecily, abstracts of charters in the PRO point to further Valognes
links
PRO E 40/3699
Grant by Agnes de Waloniis, to Gunnora de Essex', her niece and foster child, of all
the land and fee which she holds of the bishopric of Ely and of Roger de Thorn, viz.
Westley, Fulburn and Feversam, which William Delmaneir holds, and the land called
'the land of the small hall;' to be held by the service of two knights, which the said
William will perform, and a sparrowhawk yearly. (Twelfth Century)
PRO E 40/3958
Grant by Peter, the prior, and the convent of Binham, to Gunnora de Estsexia, for her
life, or until she takes the veil, of land in Westleia granted to them, in frank almoin, by
Lady Agnes de Valoniis, and Robert de Valoniis, her son. Witnesses:- John, the
chaplain of the countess, Robert de Ver, Geoffrey de berleia, and others (named):
[Camb. Twelfth century].
The grant by the prior of the convent of Binham, Norfolk, which Peter de Valognes
founded about 1107, points to the identification of Lady Agnes de Valognes as Agnes,
sister of Payn and Eustace fitz John and widow of Roger de Valognes d. 1141 of
Benington, Herts., and mother of his sons and heirs, Peter d.s.p.1158, and Robert
d.1184. Because the gift is made with the assent of Robert, the charter would appear
to date after the death of her eldest son in 1158 and probably after 1163 when the
Essex family lost its vast fortune. Agnes was trying to provide for a younger daughter
of the family. I would also suspect that the interpretation of the word 'niece' is derived
from the Latin neptis, which was also used to mean granddaughter.
Parents
FITZ RICHARD John "One Eye" "Monoculus" (ABT 1050 - 1138)
____ Magdalen ()
Siblings
FITZ JOHN [CHG TO CLAVERING] Eustace (ABT 1080 - 3 Jul 1157)
FITZ JOHN Payn (ABT 1086 - 10 Jul 1137)
FITZ JOHN Agnes (ABT 1103 - AFT 1185)
Marriage To DE VALOINES Roger (ABT 1098 - 1141)
m.
Notes
Parents
DE VALOINES Piers (Peter) (ABT 1063 - ABT 1109)
DE ST. SAUVEUR Albreda (ABT 1078 - )
Children by DE VALOINES Roger ABT 1098 - 1141
DE VALOINES Robert (ABT 1120 - 1184)
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