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DE TOSNY Ida
Birth: ABT 1160 Norfolk, Norfolk, England
Notes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ida_de_Tosny
Ida de Tosny, Countess of Norfolk was very likely a daughter of Ralph V de Tosny
(died 1162) and his wife Margaret (born circa 1125 and living in 1185), a daughter of
Robert de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Leicester.[1]
Relationship to King Henry II[edit]
Ida de Tosny was a royal ward and mistress of Henry II, King of England, by whom she
was mother of one of his illegitimate sons, William Longespée, 3rd Earl of Salisbury, (b
c. 1176-March 7, 1226), as proven by the discovery of a charter of William mentioning
"Comitissa Ida, mater mea" (Countess Ida, my mother).[2] Ida was not the first English
royal ward to be taken as a royal mistress. Isabel de Beaumont (Elizabeth de
Beaumont), was the ward of King Henry I and the mistress of one of his sons.[3]
Marriage[edit]
Around Christmas 1181, Ida de Tosny was given in marriage to Roger Bigod, 2nd Earl
of Norfolk by Henry II, together with the manors of Acle, Halvergate and South
Walsham, which had been confiscated from his inheritance after his father's death
(Hugh Bigod, 1st Earl of Norfolk).[4] Ida and Roger had a number of children
including:
Hugh Bigod, 3rd Earl of Norfolk who married in 1206 or 1207, Maud Marshal, a
daughter of William Marshal
William Bigod
Roger Bigod
John Bigod
Ralph Bigod
Mary Bigod, married Ralph fitz Robert
Margery Bigod, married William de Hastings
Ida Bigod
Many historians, including Marc Morris have speculated that the couple had a third
daughter, Alice, who married Aubrey de Vere IV, 2nd Earl of Oxford as his second
wife. However this is highly unlikely as the marriage would have been well within the
bounds of consanguinity, for the couple would have been quite closely related, a
daughter of the second earl of Norfolk being first cousin once removed to the second
earl of Oxford.
Ida de Tosney in fiction[edit]
Ida de Tosny and her husband Roger are the main characters in Elizabeth Chadwick's
The Time of Singing (Sphere, 2008), published in the USA as For the King's Favor.
They appear as minor characters in other of her books set at the same time, notably
To Defy a King, which concerns the marriage of their son Hugh to Maud, a daughter
of William Marshal
Parents
DE TOSNY Ralph V (ABT 1130 - 1162)
DE BEAUMONT Margaret (ABT 1125 - )
Siblings
DE TOSNY Roger (ABT 1160 - AFT Jan 1209)
DE TOSNY Ida (ABT 1160 - )
Marriage To PLANTAGENET Henry II "Curt Mantel" (5 Mar 1133 - 6 Jul 1189)
m.
Notes
Parents
PLANTAGENET Geoffrey V "Le Bon" (24 Aug 1113 - 7 Sep 1151)
____ Matilda (Maud) (ABT Feb 1102 - 10 Sep 1167)
Children by PLANTAGENET Henry II "Curt Mantel" 5 Mar 1133 - 6 Jul 1189
LONGESPEE William (ABT 1176 - 7 Mar 1226)
Marriage To BIGOD Roger (ABT 1150 - 2 Jul 1221)
m. Dec 1181
Notes
Parents
BIGOD Hugh (ABT 1095 - 1177)
DE VERE Juliana (ABT 1108 - 1200)
Children by BIGOD Roger ABT 1150 - 2 Jul 1221
BIGOD Hugh (ABT 1182 - 18 Feb 1225)
BIGOD Margaret (Margery) (ABT 1194 - 31 Mar 1237)
BIGOD Mary (ABT 1196 - )
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