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Birth:          ABT 1043 Penthievre, Brittany

Notes
ancestry.com
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The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 3 Oct 2002, by Rosie Bevan, which 
identifies Matilda as a descendant of the Dukes of Brittany, based on her holdings. In 
a previous post to this thread Rosie had suggested her as daughter of Ribald & 
Beatrice de Taillebois, but I believe that chronology would make her more likely his 
sister. Rosie suggests that possibly Walter was a 2nd husband for Matilda, and that 
she had a son & heir by her 1st husband, because none of her properties descended 
in the Deincourt family. Some genealogists (Fowlds for one) have suggested that 
Matilda was a daughter of William I the Conqueror.

From: "Rosie Bevan" (rbevan AT paradise.net.nz)
Subject: Re: Walter Deincourt of Blankney, co. Lincoln: a Royal Kinsman
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2002-10-03 02:12:42 PST

Dear John

Just a few comments. . . .

Looking at the Henry II's confirmation charter of 1156/57, Farrer's identification of the 
placenames looks sound. I should have included it in my previous post to clarify the 
information so here is the relevant passage which is found amongst a long list of 
grants to St Mary's York.

"Matildis uxor ejus i carucatam terre que fuit Brictive in Corebi et silvam que pertinet 
ad eandem terram. Decimam de dominio de Abingtuna et de Lins et de Tudenham et 
decimam Ribaldi de Pychenham et altera Lins et decimam Hervi de Thorp, decimam 
Normanni de Flittaburn, decimam Gerardi in Appelbi et Gainestorp et terram que 
vocatur Northwda juxta Britonam in Lincoln scira" [EYC v.1 p.275]

Translation:
"Matilda his [Walter's] wife one carucate of land which was of Brictive in Coreby 
[Lincs. - D'Aincourt held of the Bishop of Lincoln] and the wood pertaining to that 
land. Tithes of the demesne of Abington, [Cambs. Count Alan held land here] and of 
Lyng and of Tuddenham [Suffolk- Count Alan] and the tithes of Ribald of Pickenham 
[South Pickenham, Norfolk - Count Alan], Lyng [Norfolk - Count Alan] and the tithes of 
Hervey of Honingham Thorp [Norfolk- Count Alan], the tithes of Norman of Flixborough 
[Lincs. - Norman d'Arcy], the tithes of Gerard in Appleby [Lincs.- and Gainesthorpe 
[Lincs. - Ivo de Taillebois] and land called Northwood next to Burton in Lincolnshire."

The latter identification of Northwood and Burton Coggles is Fowlds' as Farrer was 
unable to identify it. However it seems to me that it could also refer to Burton near 
Lincoln which was held by the Bishop of Lincoln. Norton Disney is some 21 miles away 
from Burton Coggles and 10 miles from Burton near Lincoln, so is improbable.

There can be no doubt that the main holdings are of Count Alan - and Ribald is 
actually mentioned in reference to Pickenham. It seems to me that the case for 
Matilda's relationship with the house of Brittany is very strong. Also interesting is the 
D'Ayncourt holding (and possibly two) of the bishop of Lincoln. A gift by Remigius 
perhaps?

Cheers

Rosie

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This is excerpted from Rosie's previous post in the same thread:

If the D'Aincourt connection was via the house of Brittany as perhaps suggested by 
Matilda's holdings (which incidentally did not pass to the Deincourts) the blood 
relationship to the royal house may be explained by descent from Geoffrey, Duke of 
Brittany and Hawise da. of Richard I of Normandy. As I understand it Ivo Taillebois' 
(d.c 1093) daughter Beatrice (d. 1112) was the wife of Ribald d.1121, illegitimate 
brother of Count Alan. [K-R, DP p.283]. Ribaud was a tenant of the Count Alan in 
Middleham, Yorkshire and Lincolnshire in 1086.[K-R DP, 314].

Could Matilda have been a daughter of Ribaud and Beatrice?

Cheers

Rosie

Parents
____ Eudo (Eudes) ( 999 - 7 Jan 1079)
____ Orguen (ABT 1000 - AFT 1056)

Siblings
DE BREVAL Robert (ABT 1024 - AFT 1060)
DE RAMSAY William (ABT 1040 - )
DE BRITTANY Maud (Matilda) (ABT 1043 - )

Marriage To DEINCOURT [D'EYNCOURT] Walter I (ABT 1042 - )
    m.  

Notes


Children by DEINCOURT [D'EYNCOURT] Walter I ABT 1042 - 
DEINCOURT [D'EYNCOURT] Ralph (ABT 1072 - BEF 1158)

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