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LE PROUZ William
Birth: ABT 1225 Gidley Manor, Devonshire, England
Death: BEF 21 Oct 1270 Gidley Devonshire, England
Notes
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&id=I15387
1269 - Sheriff of Devonshire [Ancestral Roots]
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The following is part of a post to SGM, 1 Aug 1995, by Todd Farmerie, "Ancestral
Roots, 7th Edition - Corrections"
(217) Unfortunately, all work on this line, including my own, has used Pole and Vivian
as a framework for correction and expansion. However, the line as presented by
Vivian was a genealogical basket case. It requires
complete reworking, an attempt at which follows. However, you may wish to break the
line altogether until a more substantial concensus can be reached (the best remaining
noble lineage for this family would be through Lord Stourton, if he was grandfather of
Petronell (gen. 39), or through Joan Champernoun, if one accepts the identity of her
great-grandmother as daughter of Richard, Earl of Cornwall). See below for corrected
line. While I have not studied the line anew, the favored reconstruction of the Prouz
family appears to be in error. William (52-32) was made to marry twice, with William
(52-33) a son of Alice de Widworthy, and Richard (217-33), Hugh and William Jr.
children of the second wife, Alice Ferrers, heiress of Helion. This version was adopted
to explain the fact that Hugh and Richard split Helion land, but Richard and Hugh
married two daughters and coheirs of William Helion of Credy Helion (Buckfast
Cartulary), and it was likely through this connection that they acquired their common
Helion claims. One of these properties Shaplegh Helion, was said to have been held
by Hugh and wife, and by Richard and wife Margaret of Hugh de Courteney. The
mention of the wife in these records is indicative that it was in right of their wife that
Hugh and Richard derived their claim (ipm Hugh de Courtenay, 20EI). In addition,
there was some claim of the senior line of Prouz to Ashton, which has not been
explained. Thus a William Prouz appears in Feudal Aids in possession of Ashton in
1303, and Polwell reports a grant (undated) by a William to his brother Richard, both
used by Benson to suggest an extra generation in the Prouz of Ashton line, but clearly
refering to William (52-33) of the elder line. Finally a Helion le Prouz, who witnessed a
grant of William, Sr. to his younger (half-)brother, William, Jr., and was appearently not
a brother (since brothers Richard and Hugh are named and compensated), suggests
that there was an earlier Prouz/Helion marriage, as given in Devon N & Q, v:151.
While I have not found an answer to this conflict, it is probably appropriate to indicate
some doubt in the account of the marriages of William (52-32). Relating to the
parentage of Anthony Pollard, I have constructed a line through Cockworthy to
Raleigh, Chichester, Wooton, Moeles, and Prouz. However, in a note on the Pollards
in DCNQ, xxix, 303-305, J. Rowe indicates, without references, "Richard Pollard
married Margaret Chidley (not Cockworthy)." This is somewhat confusing, as Chidley is
a form of Chudlegh, into which family their son Anthony married. However, as the
Cockworthy connection was based only on traditional pedigree sources, I suggest that
this new line be withheld until it can be investigated in more detail. (It is still valid for
Stukeley and Cobleigh, for which there is documentary support.)
Parents
LE PROUZ William (ABT 1205 - )
DE GIDLEY ----- (ABT 1205 - )
Siblings
LE PROUZ William (ABT 1225 - BEF 21 Oct 1270)
Marriage To DE FERRERS Alice Fitz Gilbert (1230 - )
m.
Notes
Parents
DE FERRERS Fulk Fitz Gilbert (1210 - )
DE HELION Alice (1214 - )
Children by DE FERRERS Alice Fitz Gilbert 1230 -
PROUZ Richard (AFT 1250 - AFT 1340)
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