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DE STUTEVILLE Robert
Birth: ABT 1070 Cottingham, Yorkshire, England
Death: AFT 1138 Estouteville-sur-Mer, Normandy
Notes
ancestry.com
taken prisoner in 1107 at the Battleof Tinchebrai
also father of Patrick de Skipwith
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_III_de_Stuteville
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&id=I01034
The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 7 Sep 2002, by Rosie Bevan:
From: "Rosie Bevan" (rbevan AT paradise.net.nz)
Subject: Stuteville of Cottingham
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2002-09-07 03:43:36 PST
2.ROBERT II de Stuteville. Not believed to have held lands in England. A supporter of
Robert Curthose with his father, he was captured at St.Pierre-sur-Dive shortly before
the battle of Tinchebrai. He was married to Erneburga whose parentage is unknown.
Issue:
- Robert III of Cottingham. See below.
- William. Married to Emma, and held lands in West Yorkshire.
- Roger (sheriff of Northumberland from Easter 1170-Easter 1185, and castellan of
Wark on Tweed)
- John of Long Lawford, Warwickshire. Married to Agnes possibly da. of Waleran son
of Hugh and Matilda.
- Osmund of Weston Colville and Burton Agnes, Yorks. d. bef 1172. Succeeded by son
Roger.
- NN (soror Robert de Stuteville) wife of Robert de Daville
[Sources : Keats-Rohan, 'Domesday Descendants' p.722-724 ; Clay, 'Early Yorkshire
Charters' v.8, p.2-5]
[And on the identification of Erneburga as daughter of Hugh FizBaldric, in a post 9
Sep 2002:]]
Moriarty assumed Ernneburga was fitzBaldric's daughter because around 1087 some of
Hugh FitzBaldric's lands found their way into Stuteville hands. Moriarty appears
unaware that they had been confiscated and there is no evidence to support the
assumption that Erneburga was Hugh's daughter. Other major landholders such as the
Brus family received portions of fitz Baldric lands too. Hugh's known sons-in-law
included Walter de Rivere and Guy de Craon. [K-R Domesday People,267-268].
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Robert de Estoteville acquired a great inheritance with his wife, Eneburga, daughter
and heir of Hugh, son of Baldrick, a great Saxon thane, and among other lands, had
the lordship of Schypwyc, or Skipwic. He left three sons, Robert, Osmund, and
Patrick. [John Burke & John Bernard Burke, Extinct and Dormant Baronetcies of
England, Ireland, and Scotland, Second Edition, Scott, Webster, & Geary, London,
1841, p. 486, Skipwith, of Newbold Hall]
Note: The above source has Patrick de Skipwith descending from this Robert. Burke's
Peerage indicates that Patrick was a younger son of this Robert's son (also Robert).
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Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann AT yahoo.com, in a post-em wrote:
FWIW, Vernon James Watney in "The Wallop Family, and their Ancestry", 1928 (LDS
Film 1696491), p935 states he was "living 1138". Unfortunately this was in an early
stage of my research when I did not record footnotes to know on what basis Watney
derived the statement. I say FWIW, because Watney is like Burke's: caveat emptor.
Research note: Turton gives the mother of Robert De STUTEVILLE, Baron of
Cottingham & John De STUTEVILLE as Blanche de RIEUX dau of Quesnoc de RIEUX
(again: caveat emptor).
Regardez vous,
Curt
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And, in a later post-em, Curt added:
Of this second Robert, Orderic speaks "as a brave and powerful baron, who was a
strong partizan of the Duke" (Robert Court-heuse), "and superintended his troops and
fortresses in the Pays de Caux." He also says (817) that d'Estouteville was slain
fighting against Henry I. at Tinchebrai (1106), and not, as other authorities aver, sent
over to England to suffer the doom of life-long captivity. In either case, the whole of
his possessions-which apparently included Roger de Moubray's former barony-were
forfeited, and granted to the King's favourite, Nigel de Albini. His wife Erneburga, a
Yorkshire heiress, whose father, Hugh, the son of Baldric, had been a great Saxon
thane, brought him three sons; Robert III.; Osmund, who died at Joppa in Palestine;
and Patrick (omitted by Dugdale), to whom he gave the lordship of Skipwith in the
East Riding. [Ref: Adrian Channing 6 Jan 2000 citing: "The Battle Abbey Roll" by the
Duchess of Cleveland (1889) Vol ii pp 5-9] Note: some members of the SGM
newsgroup question the accuracy of this source... Curt
Regards,
Curt
Parents
D'ESTOUTEVILLE Robert "Grandboelle" (ABT 1040 - AFT 1106)
DE RIEUX Blanche (ABT 1045 - )
Siblings
DE STUTEVILLE Robert (ABT 1070 - AFT 1138)
Marriage To FITZ BALDRIC Erneberga (ABT 1080 - )
m.
Notes
Parents
FITZ BALDRIC Hugh (ABT 1055 - )
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Children by FITZ BALDRIC Erneberga ABT 1080 -
DE STUTEVILLE Robert (ABT 1105 - 1183)
DE STUTEVILLE John (ABT 1110 - )
DE STUTEVILLE Osmund (ABT 1116 - BEF 1172)
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