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BARDOLPH Margaret (Eleanor)
Birth: ABT 1314 Watton-at-Stone, Hertfordshire, England
Death: BEF Feb 1345 Greenfield Priory, Lincolnshire, England
Notes
ancestry.com shows her father as John Bardolph (no ancestry) and her mother as
Elizabeth d'Amory (dtr of Roger d'Amory and Isabel de Verdun)
But dates of her children's birth makes it clear she is sister and NOT daughter of John
Bardolph.
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&id=I09163
Margaret. She died before him [Adam de Welle] and was buried in the Lady Chapel at
Greenfield Priory.[a] He died 24-28 February 1344/5, aged 40, and was buried with
her. Will dated 24 Feb 1344/5, probated in Lincoln Cathedral, 4 Apr 1345. [Complete
Peerage XII/2:440-1, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
[a] Margaret may have been a daughter of Thomas (Bardolf), 2nd Lord Bardolf.
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The following post to SGM, 10 Jun 2004, by Douglas Richardson casts doubt on the
identification of his wife Margaret, as Margaret Bardolf apparently married a Kerdeston
instead of Welles. @@check ancestry
From: Douglas Richardson (royalancestry AT msn.com)
Subject: Identity of Margaret., wife of Adam de Welle, 3rd Lord Welles
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2004-06-10 17:19:03 PST
Dear Newsgroup ~
Complete Peerage 12 Pt. 2 (1959): 440-441 (sub Welles) contains a good account of
the life of Sir Adam de Welle, 3rd Lord Welles (died 1345). Regarding his marriage, the
author states the following:
"He married before 1334, Margaret. She died before him and was buried in the Lady
Chapel at Greenfield Priory aforesaid. He died 24-28 Feb. 1344/5 ..."
Elsewhere, page 441, footnote a, the author claims "Margaret may have been a da. of
Thomas Bardolf, 2nd Lord Bardolf. See the 1st edn. of this work, vol. viii, Corrigenda,
p. 525, and Misc. Gen. et Her., 5th series, vol. ix, pp.45-46."
The claim that Margaret may have been a Bardolf appears to rest solely on the weak
evidence that Sir John Bardolf, son of Thomas, served as a godparent to Margaret's
son, John de Welles, in 1352 (see page 441, footnote d). While godparents were often
relatives in this time period, they weren't exclusively so. Sometimes they were close
family friends, or, on occasion, they were important people in the area in which the
parents of the child resided.
Curiously, evidence which disproves that Margaret de Welle is a Bardolf has been in
print since 1826. In that year, an abstract of the will of Thomas Lord Bardolf's
daughter, Cecily Lady Morley, dated 1386 was printed in Testamenta Vetusta
[Reference: N.H. Nicolas, Testamenta Vetusta, 1 (1826): 121]. In her will, Lady Morley
mentions her sister, Dame Margaret Kerdeston. Unless the abstract of this will is
defective, it would appear that Lady Morley's will provides a separate history for her
sister, Margaret, who married a Kerdeston.
If anyone has further particulars regarding this matter, I'd certainly appreciate hearing
from them. This issue deserves further study.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
E-mail: douglasrichardson AT royalancestry.net
Website: www.royalancestry.net
Parents
BARDOLF Thomas (4 Oct 1282 - 15 Dec 1328)
DE GRANDSON (GRANDISON) Agnes (ABT 1285 - 11 Dec 1357)
Siblings
BARDOLPH Margaret (Eleanor) (ABT 1314 - BEF Feb 1345)
Marriage To DE WELLES Adam (22 Jul 1304 - Feb 1345)
m.
Notes
Parents
DE WELLES Adam (ABT 1260 - 1 Sep 1311)
D'ENGAINE Joan (Margaret) (ABT 1270 - 1 Jun 1315)
Children by DE WELLES Adam 22 Jul 1304 - Feb 1345
DE WELLES John (23 Aug 1334 - 11 Oct 1361)
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